An interview with Gavin Dunn, EFC’s teacher and coordinator
By Clarah Maria Loureiro da Silva, 13 years old, Rodrigo Braga Marzo, 11 years old, and Theo
Loureiro Pataro, 13 years old.
Gavin is a foreign teacher who was born in Wales, UK. He is 43 years old and he lives in Brazil
all by himself. He doesn’t have any brothers or sisters. We have decided to make this interview
because nowadays many Brazilian people want to leave our country, and we have found a
person who wants to stay.
What’s your full name?
-Gavin Treve Dunn.
How old are you?
Where were you born?
Where did you live in the UK?
How was life in the your town?
-Quite good, it’s a nice town. It’s a town that usually wins awards for the flowers; they have
some beautiful gardens and parks.
What did you do in the UK?
-Lots of things. I did work for the government for some time in the taxation department and
after I trained to be a teacher. I taught English in an English school there that received a lot of
When did you move to Brazil?
-I arrived in 2002, in the Carnival.
Have you ever lived in a place other than Bahia?
-Yes, in Brazil I’ve lived in four places. First, I lived in São Carlos in the countryside in São Paulo.
I also lived in Mossoró in Rio Grande do Norte, and Caruaru in Pernambuco.
Why did you move here?
– I was working in a school in England and I had worked previously teaching English in
Poland and Sudan in Africa and I felt like a change. And I had a colleague that had lived
in Brazil and he told me some cool things about the country, so I thought it sounded
Do you like it here?
– Yes, I do. I like the weather, it’s very nice and the people are very friendly. It’s
interesting teaching English.
Do you ever want to go back to the UK?
– Oh sometimes yeah. You know, you know about culture shock. Culture shock is when
you move to new places. There are four stages: initially, everything is beautiful, like
when you are on vacation; the second stage, when you start living in the country and
you start getting into bureaucracy of opening a bank account and finding a job, you
think “oh my God, this is so more difficult than my country” and you get a little bit
frustrated; and the third stage, you start getting adjusted to living where you are,
where you work at, how to do things and finally achieve a sort of a balance, so er… I
don’t think it’s stable. I think you go back, you know sometimes you can go back to the
first one, sometimes you go to the second one, like “ I hate this place”. So it depends
on what I’m doing. Sometimes, if I need to go to the bank or something, it takes two
hours, than yeah, I think “oh terrible”.
Do you have any family here?
– Er… no, I don’t. Yes, I’m the only one here.
Have you ever had a pet?
– Oh yeah, when I was a child we always had dogs and cats. Lots of dogs and cats. I had a
Golden Retriever when I was a child.
Do you like Australian people?
– No, I don’t because they don’t like English people either. We have a rivalry because we
have the same sports and they always beat us at cricket and rugby. And then, when we
go to Australia they say “Oh you always complain that it’s hot”. In Australia they call
English people poms, and when you complain it’s called whinging, and they say we are
whinging poms when we go to Australia, ‘cause we are always complaining: “Oh it’s
too hot!” or “There is a snake or a spider in my room!” And they don’t like us because
Australia used to be a prison, it was an English prison where we sent prisoners when
the prisons were full. It used to be a punishment, you’d get sent to Australia, it was
your punishment and you couldn’t go back to England. If you went back to England
you’d be executed. If you did something serious like stealing an apple or something,
you’d get sent to Australia, yeah. And Australian people don’t like people from New
Zealand because typically, people that went to New Zealand were richer people that
went there by choice. It wasn’t a punishment, so they think people from New Zealand